and most don't even vote...

I know that I'm only 18 and what some older people might call "immature" and/or unknowledged in politics or what-not, but I've got to form 'em sometime, right? Anyways, all that to say I hate pacifists. Well, I should say I hate what the pacifists believe. Hate the game, not the player, right? maybe not? ok. But either way, I just don't like it. Especially this whole "don't go to war" crap, and the "talk to them and find peace" junk. Here, I'll give you a quick example of why you can't just ask for peace: you go to iraq (or where ever) and walk up to the man w/ the gun. he shoots you. wow, there's a good place to be asking for peace, lieing in your own blood. Peace is a two-way street. You both have to want it. We don't want to blow the livin' crap out of them ((well, there may be some who do)), but they sure hate our guts and would love to put a few bullets in some Americans. There are some times you have to just fight fire with fire. And people are all like "our poor inocent soldiers are dieing all because of the president." NEWS FLASH: the soldiers are the ones who VOLUNTEERED to fight. They wanted to be able to fight for our country and its standards. They weren't just grabbed off the street or out of their houses and shipped to iraq w/ guns shoved in their hands. Good grief, people, open your eyes.

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here's food for thought: why is it that the people that want us to talk hate guns, yet people are much more willing to talk when a gun's pointed at them? think about it.

~duck

pansies, probably all watch tennis and the weather channel for fun... ((insider))